Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/05/2001 03:42 PM House FIN

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        May 05, 2001                                                                                            
                         3:42 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams called the House  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 3:42 P.M.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Eldon Mulder, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative John Davies                                                                                                      
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Hudson                                                                                                      
Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                    
Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Bob Loeffler,  Director, Division of Mining,  Land and Water,                                                                   
Department  of  Natural  Resources;   Peter  Eckland,  Staff,                                                                   
Representative   Bill   Williams;    Denny   DeWitt,   Staff,                                                                   
Representative  Eldon Mulder;  Senator  Alan Austerman;  John                                                                   
Bitney,   Legislative   Liaison,   Alaska   Housing   Finance                                                                   
Corporation,  Department of  Revenue;  David Teal,  Director,                                                                   
Legislative  Finance  Division; Kenneth  Bischoff,  Director,                                                                   
Division  of Administrative  Services,  Department of  Public                                                                   
Safety;  Eddy Jeans,  Manger, School  Finance and  Facilities                                                                   
Section, Department  of Education and Early  Development; Dan                                                                   
Spencer,  Director,  Division   of  Administrative  Services,                                                                   
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 185    An Act  relating to fees for certain  uses of state                                                                   
          water  and  the  accounting  and  appropriation  of                                                                   
          those  fees;  relating  to authorizations  for  the                                                                   
          temporary   use  of   state  water;  making   other                                                                   
          amendments  to  the   Alaska  Water  Use  Act;  and                                                                   
          providing for an effective date.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          CS HB 185 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with                                                                    
          a "do pass" recommendation and with a new fiscal                                                                      
          note by Department of Natural Resources.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CS SB 29 (FIN)                                                                                                                  
          An  Act  making  and  amending  appropriations  and                                                                   
          reappropriations; making  appropriations under art.                                                                   
          IX,  sec.  17(c),  Constitution  of  the  State  of                                                                   
          Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                   
          fund; and providing for an effective date.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          HCS CS  SB 29 (FIN)  was reported out  of Committee                                                                   
          with a "do pass" recommendation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 185                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to fees for  certain uses of state water                                                                   
     and  the accounting  and  appropriation  of those  fees;                                                                   
     relating  to authorizations  for  the  temporary use  of                                                                   
     state  water;  making  other amendments  to  the  Alaska                                                                   
    Water Use Act; and providing for an effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies MOVED to  ADOPT 22-GH1087\P, Luckhaupt,                                                                   
5/04/01, as  the version  of the  bill before the  Committee.                                                                   
[Copy on File].  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BOB LOEFFLER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF MINING,  LAND AND WATER,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES,  commented that the bill was                                                                   
only one  part of a solution  for the Department.   The Water                                                                   
Management program  has had  a significant funding  reduction                                                                   
in  the  past  several  years.    Currently,  there  are  3.5                                                                   
employees running the program  and the resulting consequences                                                                   
is  a backlog  of 6,700  claims  for water  rights and  3,000                                                                   
total  actions  including transfers,  amendments  and  permit                                                                   
extensions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler addressed possible solutions:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ·    Streamlining  the system.    The Department  cannot                                                                   
          pretend that they have  enough funds to operate the                                                                   
          system,  as it existed  in the  early 1980's.   The                                                                   
          Department  is proposing regulations  to streamline                                                                   
          65%  of  the  caseload  and  concentrate  staff  on                                                                   
          larger  water  flows   and  where  there  could  be                                                                   
          potential for problems.                                                                                               
     ·    There  is $300  thousand dollars  in the House  and                                                                   
          Senate  operating  budgets.    Even  a  streamlined                                                                   
          system  could  not   be  run  statewide  with  four                                                                   
          employees.     An  increment  consisting   of  $300                                                                   
          thousand  dollars has passed  the House  and Senate                                                                   
          operating budgets.                                                                                                    
     ·    A long-term income source.   The proposed bill will                                                                   
          provide   that  the   Department  may  change   the                                                                   
          reasonable  direct costs  of  providing a  service,                                                                   
          and  would place  strict  limitations  on what  the                                                                   
          Department could charge to assure the public that                                                                     
          they will not raise fees unreasonably.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler listed a summary of bill's purpose:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ·    Fee limitations and                                                                                                   
     ·    Temporary water use authorizations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde voiced  concern with  the large backlog  of                                                                   
cases.  Mr. Loeffler replied that  it would take four to five                                                                   
years  to address  that size backlog.   The  backlog will  be                                                                   
prioritized, as some of the cases are not time critical.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hudson advised  that funds had been added back                                                                   
to  address that  backlog.   He hoped  the legislation  would                                                                   
help the situation and then the  Department could take action                                                                   
on the  water permits.   He believed  it would take  about 30                                                                   
days.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lancaster inquired  why no new employees would                                                                   
be  starting  in  FY02.   Mr.  Loeffler  explained  that  the                                                                   
employee in FY02  had already been included  in the operating                                                                   
budget.  He added that the bill  has a one-year sunset, which                                                                   
he did not understand  why it had been placed  on the bill in                                                                   
the House Judiciary committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams pointed  out that  there had been  concern                                                                   
voiced  with  extending  that  sunset.   He  added  that  the                                                                   
Department  acknowledged that  they  would be  able to  "live                                                                   
with it" as currently written.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #1.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  He noted  the language would insert  the phrase, "and                                                                   
a water  conservation  fee under AS  46.15.035".   Vice-Chair                                                                   
Bunde OBJECTED for purposes of discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                   
provide for  technical clean up.   Vice-Chair  Bunde WITHDREW                                                                   
the OBJECTION.   There being NO further  OBJECTION, Amendment                                                                   
#1 was adopted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  report CS HB 185 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note.  There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  185 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation   and  with   a  new  fiscal   note  by                                                                   
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Recess:        4:05 p.m.                                                                                                        
Reconvene      4:15 p.m.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 29(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     An   Act   making  and   amending   appropriations   and                                                                   
     reappropriations;  making appropriations under  art. IX,                                                                   
     sec. 17(c),  Constitution of  the State of  Alaska, from                                                                   
     the constitutional  budget  reserve fund; and  providing                                                                   
     for an effective date.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hudson  MOVED   that  22-GS1050\L,   Cramer,                                                                   
5/5/01,  be the  version of  the bill  before the  Committee.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams  pointed  out  that his  office  had  been                                                                   
working with the bill for the  entire session.  He referenced                                                                   
the amendments.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #1.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $600,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     New Section to read:                                                                                                       
     Sec.___OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR.  The sum  of $600,000 is                                                                   
     appropriated  from the lapsing  general fund  balance of                                                                   
     the appropriation  made in  Sec. 1,  ch. 133,  SLA 2000,                                                                   
     page 13,  line 29, and allocated  on lines 30-31  to the                                                                   
     Office  of  the  Governor,  division  of  elections  for                                                                   
     expansion of the AccuVote elections system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  commented  that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
address needs  for the Division  of Elections.  It  would add                                                                   
Accu-Vote  machines in four  major regions.   It would  place                                                                   
Alaska "ahead of the curve" in  that area.  He requested that                                                                   
the increment be funded.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  commented that the funding  source was not                                                                   
agreeable.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Williams, Mulder                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bunde was not present for the vote.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies  requested that Amendment #2  and #3 be                                                                   
HELD in Committee.  [Copies on File].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #4.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
     UAA-Science/Biomedical Facilities Renovations                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source                                                                                                              
     General Fund              $5,500,600                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
     UAA-Classroom Renovations                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source                                                                                                              
     General Fund              $2,560,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft explained that  the amendment  would be                                                                   
used  to  help fund  some  of  the University  of  Alaska  in                                                                   
Anchorage facilities by upgrading  existing instructional and                                                                   
research  labs  and  renovating   the  building  interior  to                                                                   
accommodate the  academic needs  of the new Teacher  Training                                                                   
Preparation Grant.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder responded that  this is not the time for that                                                                   
project.  He added that it may happen in the near future.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Croft, Davies, Moses,                                                                                            
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #5.   [Copy on                                                                   
File]. Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION & EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                
     Head Start & Safety Repairs                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source                                                                                                              
     General Funds             $200,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source                                                                                                              
     General Funds             $300,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
provide funding  for necessary improvements in  order to meet                                                                   
the standards.  He pointed out  that the operating budget for                                                                   
the programs is too lean to include such repairs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Croft, Davies, Moses,                                                                                            
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  WITHDREW  Amendment  #6.    [Copy  on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #7.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ANCHORAGE COURTS                                                                                                           
     Anchorage Wellness Court                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $75,000                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $272,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
provide funding  for the Anchorage Wellness Court,  which has                                                                   
been  funded  by  a  federal   grant.    That  grant  is  not                                                                   
sufficient to carry the program through the end of FY02.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder  explained  that  there is  $75,000  in  the                                                                   
Capital Budget  and that there  is additional funding  in the                                                                   
fiscal notes of the operating budget.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  advised that  there is sufficient  funding                                                                   
for the program for FY02.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft WITHDREW Amendment #7.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  #8. [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                           
     Export Certification Program                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Funds             $80                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  J.  Davies  explained that  the  facility  is                                                                   
needed  for  the  storage  of  seed  stock  until  sufficient                                                                   
quantity is available for shipping.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams pointed  out that  the item  had not  been                                                                   
included  in  the  Governor's  request  or  in  the  Senate's                                                                   
version  of the  Capital Budget.    He pointed  out that  the                                                                   
funding would be straight general funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies WITHDREW Amendment #8.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #9.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                
     Grants to Domestic Violence Shelters                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source                                                                                                              
     General Funds             $200,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft explained  that there is  approximately                                                                   
$900,000  dollars in  repairs  and code  compliance  projects                                                                   
identified  by  the Council  funded  programs.   The  request                                                                   
would address a small portion of the projects.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams commented that  this was a low priority for                                                                   
the  Department.   He  added that  the  Department of  Public                                                                   
Safety was receiving  funding for a new computer  system this                                                                   
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Croft, Davies, Moses,                                                                                            
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #10. [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Emergency Communications Infrastructure Support                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $650.0                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  J. Davies commented  that this item  had been                                                                   
proposed  in  the  operating budget;  however,  it  had  been                                                                   
placed in  the capital budget  in previous years.   The focus                                                                   
would  be  on the  emergency  communications  infrastructure.                                                                   
He did not  think that it should  be part of the  charge back                                                                   
system.   He thought that it  should be funded as  a separate                                                                   
item.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  advised that  the item  was still  "open" in                                                                   
Conference Committee and is being worked on.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  WITHDREW  Amendment  #10.   [Copy  on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #11.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Mulder OBJECTED.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $1,608,400                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $77,410.93                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft proposed that  there are two  "serious"                                                                   
concerns listed  in the supplemental  budget.   Amendment #11                                                                   
would  address  the  concerns  registered by  the  Office  of                                                                   
Public Advocacy (OPA).   The funding requested  would be used                                                                   
for work which has already been completed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder   interjected  that  the   Subcommittee  was                                                                   
attempting  to find  a funding  source for  a portion of  the                                                                   
need.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #12.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                             
     Power Cost Equalization                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Power Cost Equalization (PCE)                                                                                              
         and Rural Development Capitalization Fund                                                                              
                               $1,546,300                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  stated  that Power  Cost  Equalization                                                                   
(PCE) had been hit deeply for fuel costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder  commented  that   the  statutory  agreement                                                                   
reached a  couple years  ago was  that $15.7 million  dollars                                                                   
would be used to fund PCE.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lancaster  noted   that  the  Department  had                                                                   
received a carry  forward of $1.4 million dollars  from FY00.                                                                   
He  assumed that  there  should  not be  a  problem with  the                                                                   
current proposed budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #13.   [Copy                                                                   
on File].  Co-Chair Mulder OBJECTED.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                             
     Rural Power Systems Upgrade (ED99)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund Match        $500.0                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                   
provide  $500 thousand  dollars for the  Rural Power  Systems                                                                   
upgrade.   He commented  that  it would be  a cost  effective                                                                   
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  explained that  the Denali Commission  had                                                                   
received  federal money  in the  past.  That  funding is  not                                                                   
expected to be lost.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  understood that  it  was not  Senator                                                                   
Stevens'  intent to  supplant  State funding  for the  Denali                                                                   
Commission.  The State should maintain an effort.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft WITHDREW #14.  [Copy on File].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #15.   [Copy                                                                   
on File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                            
     Forest Legacy Federal Grant Program (ED99)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     1002 Federal Receipts     $500,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                   
allow the State  to buy land for protecting habitat  use.  He                                                                   
added that  the State  should take  advantage of the  federal                                                                   
money that is available.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams voiced his concern with that idea.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies indicated that  the money  was already                                                                   
established  as "inholdings".   Those  monies do  not have  a                                                                   
market value  and are  restricted.  They  could be  listed at                                                                   
fair   market   value.      Co-Chair    Williams   disagreed.                                                                   
Representative J.  Davies noted that  he would be  willing to                                                                   
add a stipulation limiting it to "in holding" land only.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  MOVED   to  amend  Amendment  #15  to                                                                   
include the requirement  that the money only  be expended for                                                                   
"in holdings" within existing park units.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.   There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTIONS, Amendment #15 was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft WITHDREW #16.  [Copy on File].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Representative  Davies  WITHDREW  Amendment  #17.   [Copy  on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Recess:        4:45 P.M.                                                                                                        
Reconvene:     4:55 P.M.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #18.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Mulder OBJECTED.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                  
     Rural Affairs Coordinator Program                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $107,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  explained  that  the  Alaska  National                                                                   
Guard would see  a further erosion of its ability  to recruit                                                                   
and retain  members from rural  areas of the State  without a                                                                   
concerted  effort  in the  direction.   The  Alaska  National                                                                   
Guard Scouts  have had a  long history  with the Guard.   The                                                                   
Department is  losing ground in  that area and  believes that                                                                   
the  funds would  assist in  the continuation  of the  Alaska                                                                   
Scouts  in that  area.   It would  be  a joint  federal/state                                                                   
team.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder   commented  that   the  request   had  been                                                                   
discussed  during the  operating budget.   He suggested  that                                                                   
the Department had come out well within their budget.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Williams, Mulder                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bunde was not present for the vote.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #19.   [Copy                                                                   
on File].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                           
     Alaska Marine Highway                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $181,300                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #20.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Mulder OBJECTED.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                     
     Commission on Tolerance                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $203,400                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  explained  that  the amendment  was  a                                                                   
possible effort  to solve problems that exist  throughout the                                                                   
country.   Co-Chair  Mulder stated  that  the Commission  was                                                                   
similar to current task forces  that already exist throughout                                                                   
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft asked  if the fiscal  note section  was                                                                   
still open in  the operating budget.  Co-Chair  Mulder stated                                                                   
that it was.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies commented  that Amendment  #21 was  an                                                                   
operating  project  that  is  not  normally  in  the  Capital                                                                   
Budget.   Co-Chair  Mulder  acknowledged  that  it should  be                                                                   
placed in the Capitol Budget.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #21.  [Copy on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                           
     Highway Safety Related Purposes                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Federal Receipts          $848,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #21 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment #22.   [Copy                                                                   
on File].  Co-Chair Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                      
     AHFC Housing and Urban Development Federal HOME Grant                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     AHFC Corporate Receipts $500,000                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  explained   that  without  using  the                                                                   
receipts,  another  $2  million dollars  of  federal  funding                                                                   
would be left on the table.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder questioned if  the other funding source would                                                                   
be AHFC funds.  Representative  J. Davies replied they would.                                                                   
Co-Chair Mulder pointed  out that those funds  were now fully                                                                   
obligated.  Representative J. Davies did not believe that.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BITNEY,  LEGISLATIVE LIAISON,  ALASKA  HOUSING  FINANCE                                                                   
CORPORATION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,  did not know  the total                                                                   
amount of  the AHFC  dividend distribution.   He pointed  out                                                                   
that there are currently items  pending within the Conference                                                                   
Committee.   The  largest  outstanding  component  is the  $6                                                                   
million dollar  capitalization of  the State Debt  Retirement                                                                   
Fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  encouraged Committee  members to vote  no on                                                                   
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  TEAL, DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE DIVISION,  noted                                                                   
that  the  funding  source of  the  amendment  was  corporate                                                                   
receipts, not dividends.  There  is a limit of the dividends;                                                                   
however, there  is no limit  on the AHFC corporate  receipts.                                                                   
The argument  would depend on  which funding source is  to be                                                                   
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  asked where the corporate receipts  would go                                                                   
if they  were not used  here.  Mr.  Teal explained  that they                                                                   
are  internal receipts  received from  AHFC.   They could  be                                                                   
used for next year's dividend if the loans were profitable.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  questioned where the monies  would be coming                                                                   
from.   Mr.  Bitney advised  that AHFC  makes available  $103                                                                   
million dollars each year, which  is divided into two pieces.                                                                   
The first is a  transfer of assets and is part  of an overall                                                                   
plan.  The  Board will transfer  that amount.  The  amount is                                                                   
a loss of capital  to the corporation.  That is  the limit of                                                                   
what the board will approve.   Within the State system, there                                                                   
are various funding sources that  label it differently.    In                                                                   
the end, it totals $103 million dollars.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  clarified that all requests  would come from                                                                   
the $103  million dollars.   Co-Chair  Mulder maintained  his                                                                   
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies asked the  impact that the  $2 million                                                                   
dollar in  federal funding  would have  on AHFC's ability  to                                                                   
develop  corporate  receipts  in  the  future.    Mr.  Bitney                                                                   
explained that  the proposed program has a  match requirement                                                                   
of 25%.   The program is made  available as grants  and it is                                                                   
geared toward  low-income families.   He voiced  concern that                                                                   
with the loss  of the arbitrage programs in  the corporation,                                                                   
it  would affect  the  area  where affordable  housing  needs                                                                   
would be met throughout the State.   He interjected that AHFC                                                                   
is trying to develop the arbitrage programs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Moses, Croft                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Recess:        5:10 P.M.                                                                                                        
Reconvene:     8:25 P.M.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #23.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Representative Davies OBJECTED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                      
     Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PETER   ECKLAND,   STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE   BILL   WILLIAMS,                                                                   
explained the changes made through Amendment #23 on:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 5, Line 12                                                                                                         
     *Page 26, Lines 14-16                                                                                                    
     *Page 102, Line 28                                                                                                       
     *Page 110, Line 18                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DENNY  DEWITT,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  ELDON  MULDER,  walked                                                                   
Committee members through the  changes made through Amendment                                                                   
#23 on:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     *Page 68, Line 21                                                                                                        
     *Page 74, Line 23                                                                                                        
     *Page 110, Line 11                                                                                                       
     *Page 110, Line 18                                                                                                       
     *Page 110, Line 21                                                                                                       
     *Page 110, Line 23                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #23 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #24.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADDS LANGUAGE:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     After the  word "construction"  would add the  language:                                                                   
     "and   refurbishing  and   purchase  of  fire   fighting                                                                   
     equipment,    for   Lazy    Mountain   Volunteer    Fire                                                                   
     Department."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams explained the language.  There being NO                                                                       
OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #25.  [Copy on                                                                       
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Kodiak-St. Herman Harbor Loading Dock Planning & Design                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Under Appropriation Items                                                                                                  
          DELETE:              $250,000                                                                                         
          INSERT:              $200,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Under General Funds                                                                                                        
          DELETE:              $250,000                                                                                         
          INSERT:              $200,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Kodiak College Parking Lot Expansion                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     General Funds             $50,000                                                                                          
     Appropriation Items       $50,000                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #25 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #26.  [Copy on                                                                       
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                             
     National Petroleum Reserve                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Federal Receipts          $1,728,015                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #26 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to ADOPT Amendment #27.  [Copy                                                                      
on File].  He explained that the amendment would move money                                                                     
from one project in Nome to another.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     City of Nome as a match for funds for a pilot program                                                                      
     for a regional learning center.                                                                                            
                               $300,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     City of Nome as a grant for a port construction                                                                            
     project.                                                                                                                   
                               $300,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #27 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Davies  MOVED   to   ADOPT  Amendment   #28.                                                                   
Representative  Davies  MOVED  to  RESCIND  action  taken  on                                                                   
Amendment #15,  which addresses similar issues.   There being                                                                   
NO OBJECTION, action was rescinded.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                            
     Forest Legacy Program                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Federal Receipts          $500,000                                                                                         
                         (each year for the next five years)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #27 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #29. [Copy  on                                                                   
File].  Representative Davies OBJECTED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Emergency Communications                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Insert a new subsection:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Budget & Audit Committee       $ 6,670,800                                                                                 
     Legislative Council            $20,786,800                                                                                 
     Legislative Operating Budget $ 6,353,900                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeWitt explained  that the amendment  would reappropriate                                                                   
dollars back into  the Emergency Communications  System.  The                                                                   
system  is  part  of  a large  system  that  is  being  built                                                                   
throughout the State.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies   asked  how  much  money   would  the                                                                   
increment generate.   Mr. DeWitt  explained that it  would be                                                                   
approximately $300,000 dollars.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  J.  Davies  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There                                                                   
being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment #29 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams MOVE  to ADOPT  Amendment #30.   [Copy  on                                                                   
File].  Representative Davies OBJECTED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                  
     Public Defender Agency                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     New Section                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund                                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy      $543,000                                                                                    
     Public Defender Agency         $240,000                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies  asked if those amounts  would fill the                                                                   
need for  the current fiscal year.   Mr. DeWitt  replied that                                                                   
it would not totally fill that need.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies interjected  that this  was a  step in                                                                   
the  "right   direction"  and   proceeded  to  WITHDRAW   his                                                                   
OBJECTION.  There being NO further  OBJECTION, Amendment # 30                                                                   
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #31.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $70,000                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #31 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #32.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                               
     Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     Alaska Court System                                                                                                        
     Special Project for Child Protection                                                                                       
                               $30,000                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #32 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #33.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Representative Davies OBJECTED.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                           
          To Department of Public Safety                                                                                        
             Village Public Safety Officer Program (VPSO)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE (DOTPF):           $150,000                                                                                         
     INSERT (DPS):             $125,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeWitt explained that the  amendment would offer a carry-                                                                   
over of approximately $125,000  dollars for the VPSO program.                                                                   
He  explained  how  it  would  be  used  for  increasing  the                                                                   
appropriation that is in HB 103.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies questioned if  it would allow  for the                                                                   
hiring of more VPSO officers or an increase in the pay.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KENNETH  BISCHOFF,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC  SAFETY, replied that it would                                                                   
be used  to hire more  VPSO officiers.   He added  that these                                                                   
are not State positions but rather non-profit employees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  J.  Davies  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There                                                                   
being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment #33 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde referenced discussion  regarding  the study                                                                   
of  the proposed  magnitude  for  Department  of Education  &                                                                   
Early Development.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
EDDY JEANS,  MANGER, SCHOOL  FINANCE AND FACILITIES  SECTION,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF  EDUCATION AND  EARLY  DEVELOPMENT,  commented                                                                   
that  the Department  has  been on  record  tracking HB  203,                                                                   
requesting that the report be  completed and submitted to the                                                                   
Legislature by January 15, 2003.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde asked if  the State  would be "better  off"                                                                   
waiting  a  year.    Mr.  Jeans  acknowledged  that  was  the                                                                   
Administration's  position.     Vice-Chair  Bunde   MOVED  to                                                                   
RESCIND action taken on adopting  Amendment #23.  There being                                                                   
NO OBJECTION, action was rescinded.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 01 - 116, Side A                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bunde  MOVED to AMEND Amendment #23,  Page 2, Line                                                                   
17, change  the date from  "2002" to "2003".   Representative                                                                   
Croft OBJECTED.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft referenced  the original  bill, SB  36,                                                                   
and discussion  regarding the sunset.   He spoke to  the cost                                                                   
factors meeting  as quickly  as possible.   It is  known that                                                                   
the current cost  factors which the State is  operating with,                                                                   
do not  work.  The entire  formula that the  State government                                                                   
is  based upon  is wrong  and  needs to  be made  right.   It                                                                   
should not be delayed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  pointed out  that the Department  requests                                                                   
that it be extended.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lancaster asked  if it would take that long to                                                                   
get a report to study from the Department.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies  MOVED to AMEND the amendment  to March                                                                   
31, 2002.  Vice-Chair Bunde OBJECTED.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  suggested that  delaying  it for  one                                                                   
year was  too long,  whereas, extending  it six months  would                                                                   
give the Department six more months.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  commented that  the biggest  issue is  to do                                                                   
the process  correctly.   He did not  know how long  it would                                                                   
take.  He believed that the more  time offered, the better it                                                                   
would be.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  stated that  he had  been supporting the  extended                                                                   
date and that the Department would  work with the Legislative                                                                   
Budget and Audit  Committee (LBA) for a quality  project.  He                                                                   
supported the March 31, 2002 date.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker, Croft, Davies,                                                                      
               Williams                                                                                                         
OPPOSED:       Foster, Bunde, Mulder                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (7-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies MOTION to  ADOPT a conceptual amendment                                                                   
to adopt an effective  date of May 14, 2001.   There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, the conceptual amendment was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED to  ADOPT the amended  Amendment                                                                   
#23.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted as amended.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  noted that Amendment #29  should have been                                                                   
included in the Capital Lapse date.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  MOVED to RESCIND action on  moving Amendment                                                                   
#30.  There being NO OBJECTION,  the amendment was rescinded.                                                                   
Co-Chair Mulder  pointed out  a technical  change on  Line 8,                                                                   
changing the language to "June  30, 2000 and 2001".  He moved                                                                   
the  language  change.   There  being  NO OBJECTION,  it  was                                                                   
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF ADMINISTRATION,  advised  that  the Office  of                                                                   
Public  Advocacy has  $77,400  dollars worth  of claims  from                                                                   
FY00 which are still unpaid.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, amended  Amendment #30 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams MOVED to RESCIND  action taken on Amendment                                                                   
#21.  There being NO OBJECTION,  Amendment #21 was before the                                                                   
Committee for reconsideration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft MOVED to  ADOPT the new  Amendment #21,                                                                   
#22-GS1050\L.10, Cramer,  5/5/01.  There being  NO OBJECTION,                                                                   
the new Amendment #21 was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment  #34.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Representative Croft OBJECTED for clarification.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Operation Renew Hope                                                                                                       
     AHFC Dividend             $500,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     INSERT:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     City of Adak                                                                                                               
     AHFC Dividend             $300,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alternative Energy Program                                                                                                 
     AHFC Dividend             $200,000                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams clarified  that these  monies are  federal                                                                   
funds and  that the  State does  not know  when they  will be                                                                   
receiving funding  authorization.  With authorization,  those                                                                   
funds could come back next year.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #34 was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder MOVED  to  ADOPT Amendment  #35.   [Copy  on                                                                   
File].  Representative Davies OBJECTED for clarification.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                             
     Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $2,000,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder explained that  there was a request from U.S.                                                                   
Representative  Don Young  and U.S. Senator  Ted Stevens  for                                                                   
supplemental support  for the development and  opening of the                                                                   
Arctic  National  Wildlife  Refuge  (ANWR) for  oil  and  gas                                                                   
exploration.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  stated  that the  State  had  already                                                                   
provided  $1.5 million  dollars.   He  pointed  out that  the                                                                   
State had not received much money  from the industry for that                                                                   
endeavor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  J.  Davies  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There                                                                   
being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment #35 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Williams   requested  that   Legislative   Finance                                                                   
Division and  Legislative Legal  Division be given  authority                                                                   
to  make the  appropriate  technical changes  throughout  the                                                                   
bill.  Co-Chair  Williams MOVED that OPTION.   There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  MOVED to RESCIND  action taken  on Amendment                                                                   
#21.  There being NO OBJECTION, action was rescinded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder referenced Page  1, Line 4, changing "general                                                                   
fund" to "federal receipts".   Co-Chair Mulder MOVED to ADOPT                                                                   
the corrected  language.   There being  NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                   
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED a  new Amendment  #2.   [Copy on                                                                   
File].  Co-Chair Mulder OBJECTED.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Funding Source                                                                                                           
     General Fund              $2,000,000                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Davies   explained   that   $2,000,000   was                                                                   
appropriated  from the  Alaska Commission  on Post  Secondary                                                                   
Education  (APCE) which  would bring  the State  up to  $16.3                                                                   
million dollars.   That number  would bring the  amount close                                                                   
to that  which the University  President had requested.   The                                                                   
amendment would fully fund the University's request.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder commented  that  there  had been  discussion                                                                   
regarding the amount of money  appropriated to the University                                                                   
this year in  comparison to that appropriated last  year.  He                                                                   
commented  that there  had been significant  process  in that                                                                   
funding effort.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Croft  addressed   the  amount  of   funding                                                                   
received last year and whether  it had been only general fund                                                                   
monies.     He believed  that the  requested amendment  would                                                                   
cure that concern.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Croft, Davies                                                                                                    
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Williams, Mulder                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses and Vice-Chair  Bunde were  not present                                                                   
for the vote.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies requested  that the Committee treat the                                                                   
$2 million  dollars in the base  next year.   Co-Chair Mulder                                                                   
agreed that  the process had been  difficult and he  hoped to                                                                   
work  toward  that  end  with the  support  of  the  Majority                                                                   
Caucus.   Representative  Davies voiced  his appreciation  of                                                                   
that commitment.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  MOVED to  report HCS CS  SB 29 (FIN)  out of                                                                   
Committee with  individual recommendations.   There  being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HCS CS SB 29  (FIN) was reported out of Committee  with a "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 P.M.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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